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	<title>Comments on: BBC twists statistics once again</title>
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		<title>By: kasolo</title>
		<link>http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2008/05/28/bbc-twists-statistics-once-again/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>kasolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 08:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quite bright of you, its  a damn lie, eEngland needed a better coach who cd combine quality, to make things happen, just immagine, ignoring Becks, England&#039;s most passionate player on the pitch fo England!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quite bright of you, its  a damn lie, eEngland needed a better coach who cd combine quality, to make things happen, just immagine, ignoring Becks, England&#8217;s most passionate player on the pitch fo England!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, emphasising yes, but I&#039;d go as far to say exaggerating.

And given that this is the first year in five that there&#039;s been a fall at all, I&#039;m not really sure what their point really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, emphasising yes, but I&#8217;d go as far to say exaggerating.</p>
<p>And given that this is the first year in five that there&#8217;s been a fall at all, I&#8217;m not really sure what their point really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your point is well made but remember 

there are stats stats and damn lies. The graph isn&#039;t wrong its just adjusted to view a certain point. No lying - just emphasising a point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your point is well made but remember </p>
<p>there are stats stats and damn lies. The graph isn&#8217;t wrong its just adjusted to view a certain point. No lying &#8211; just emphasising a point</p>
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		<title>By: phatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>phatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point. I spotted this too - glad someone went on to blog it. 

I actually saw the same reporter (from the BBC program) doing a news interview for SKY. Clearly some kind of PR spin campaign is going on.

But to resort to messed up graphs is pretty gross.

Another thing they mentioned is that Italy have the highest percentage of  Italian starters in their league then go on to link this with their recent success in the World Cup. What they don&#039;t mention is Germany have one of the lowest league starters percentages (roughly equivalent of that in the premiership) and they have enjoyed (only second to Brazil) the most success in recent world cups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point. I spotted this too &#8211; glad someone went on to blog it. </p>
<p>I actually saw the same reporter (from the BBC program) doing a news interview for SKY. Clearly some kind of PR spin campaign is going on.</p>
<p>But to resort to messed up graphs is pretty gross.</p>
<p>Another thing they mentioned is that Italy have the highest percentage of  Italian starters in their league then go on to link this with their recent success in the World Cup. What they don&#8217;t mention is Germany have one of the lowest league starters percentages (roughly equivalent of that in the premiership) and they have enjoyed (only second to Brazil) the most success in recent world cups.</p>
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		<title>By: GOOOOOOOOOOONEEER</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOOOOOOOOOOONEEER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right about who should be to blame in the end if all goes wrong, the sad thing is the media doesnt seem to share in your logical reasoning. The sad truth is that when it comes to sport in this country the most any us will ever see of it is talk, talk and more talk about what is wrong with football and grass roots this and grass roots that and no one will put any money where their mouths are.

The truth is this is probably yet another attempt by the FA to make fans forget how they are not investing the money they make out of us back into football at any reasonable rate, and that thanks to them hiring a total baffoon to run the england team we dont have anyone to represent us in the upcomming championships, thus costing the nation billions, so lets blame the foreigners.

The reality is England needs to INVEST, INVEST and INVEST some more because quite fraknly this is a problem that can be solved by throwing money at it. INVEST in training players, coaches and managers. INVEST in free or very affordable and accessable facilities, thats five and eleven aside because just having them all over the country would be enough to boost the numbers dramatically. INVEST in a system that unifies the education system with the sports system like they have in the U.S.A and as you can see all their sports are dominated always have been and always will be by Americans and whats more they are all multi-billion dollar industries. INVEST in compensating smaller clubs for having sold off their young english talents to larger premier league clubs so that they can go and advance onto the international stage. 

And just like that you have the blueprint to the answer, not someone going on about foreigners comming in taking over but instead this is the only answer to the problem, an total and aggressive overhaul of the entire footballing system. It requires a lot of time a lot of money and a lot of hard work but sadly i think you&#039;ll find that few will even consider it for that very same reason. It seems until all the sport in this country has fallen apart will wnyone be willing to consider this option and so for now twisting the stastics and miserably failing to ask the right questions is the best you will get from our media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right about who should be to blame in the end if all goes wrong, the sad thing is the media doesnt seem to share in your logical reasoning. The sad truth is that when it comes to sport in this country the most any us will ever see of it is talk, talk and more talk about what is wrong with football and grass roots this and grass roots that and no one will put any money where their mouths are.</p>
<p>The truth is this is probably yet another attempt by the FA to make fans forget how they are not investing the money they make out of us back into football at any reasonable rate, and that thanks to them hiring a total baffoon to run the england team we dont have anyone to represent us in the upcomming championships, thus costing the nation billions, so lets blame the foreigners.</p>
<p>The reality is England needs to INVEST, INVEST and INVEST some more because quite fraknly this is a problem that can be solved by throwing money at it. INVEST in training players, coaches and managers. INVEST in free or very affordable and accessable facilities, thats five and eleven aside because just having them all over the country would be enough to boost the numbers dramatically. INVEST in a system that unifies the education system with the sports system like they have in the U.S.A and as you can see all their sports are dominated always have been and always will be by Americans and whats more they are all multi-billion dollar industries. INVEST in compensating smaller clubs for having sold off their young english talents to larger premier league clubs so that they can go and advance onto the international stage. </p>
<p>And just like that you have the blueprint to the answer, not someone going on about foreigners comming in taking over but instead this is the only answer to the problem, an total and aggressive overhaul of the entire footballing system. It requires a lot of time a lot of money and a lot of hard work but sadly i think you&#8217;ll find that few will even consider it for that very same reason. It seems until all the sport in this country has fallen apart will wnyone be willing to consider this option and so for now twisting the stastics and miserably failing to ask the right questions is the best you will get from our media.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I was thinking: WHOA! Then I saw the stats are exaggerated. I do think the EPL needs to promote English talent more - one of the things that does sting a bit with Arsenal (my team). It&#039;s not like you should lower the standards of your team to accomodate English players, rather you should have better facilitated academies and promote English players at grassroots level. Then England will have some mighty fine chaps playing for them in about a decade and the EPL would have more English players. Simple solution but probably hard to put into effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I was thinking: WHOA! Then I saw the stats are exaggerated. I do think the EPL needs to promote English talent more &#8211; one of the things that does sting a bit with Arsenal (my team). It&#8217;s not like you should lower the standards of your team to accomodate English players, rather you should have better facilitated academies and promote English players at grassroots level. Then England will have some mighty fine chaps playing for them in about a decade and the EPL would have more English players. Simple solution but probably hard to put into effect.</p>
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