Comments on: Injuries and handballs – the footballing world needs to get a grip http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/19/injuries-and-handballs-the-footballing-world-needs-to-get-a-grip/ Arsenal News and Views - An Arsenal Blog Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:28:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Pete http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/19/injuries-and-handballs-the-footballing-world-needs-to-get-a-grip/#comment-31549 Pete Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:39:00 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=980#comment-31549 bongo, I agree entirely. Sky Sports Justice is unfortunately a very real thing. It seems if they push hard enough, action is taken. I really wouldn't be surprised to see Henry pick up a ban of a match or two, which would be horribly inconsistent. As for FIFA, they simply don't want to tackle the big issues. And don't get me started on Platini's five referees... bongo, I agree entirely.

Sky Sports Justice is unfortunately a very real thing. It seems if they push hard enough, action is taken. I really wouldn’t be surprised to see Henry pick up a ban of a match or two, which would be horribly inconsistent.

As for FIFA, they simply don’t want to tackle the big issues. And don’t get me started on Platini’s five referees…

]]> By: bongo http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/19/injuries-and-handballs-the-footballing-world-needs-to-get-a-grip/#comment-31548 bongo Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:38:22 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=980#comment-31548 Hi Pete, it wasn't really a reaction to your article per se more the comments afterward and I felt the need to vent. Just seems that the English media especially sky news have taken this matter to extremes, like we're some kind of special needs little brother that needs them to defend us against bullies. It annoys the hell out of me because it detracts from the real issue, instead of leading calls on FIFA to introduce measures to safe guard fair play in big matches like this they're trying to vilify Henry. They're making it so FIFA can worm their way out of it again and do nothing, just blame Henry, tarnish his career and call it part of the game so they don't have to get up off their fat asses and make the changes every fan, player and coach wants them to make. Hi Pete, it wasn’t really a reaction to your article per se more the comments afterward and I felt the need to vent.
Just seems that the English media especially sky news have taken this matter to extremes, like we’re some kind of special needs little brother that needs them to defend us against bullies.
It annoys the hell out of me because it detracts from the real issue, instead of leading calls on FIFA to introduce measures to safe guard fair play in big matches like this they’re trying to vilify Henry.
They’re making it so FIFA can worm their way out of it again and do nothing, just blame Henry, tarnish his career and call it part of the game so they don’t have to get up off their fat asses and make the changes every fan, player and coach wants them to make.

]]> By: Pete http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/19/injuries-and-handballs-the-footballing-world-needs-to-get-a-grip/#comment-31547 Pete Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:31:36 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=980#comment-31547 bongo, I think you misread my article if you think I'm saying the Irish should quit moaning. I wasn't telling the Irish to get a grip, quite the contrary (read the final paragraph). I was telling the English media to get a grip. From the contact I've had, the Irish have been perfectly rational about the whole situation, while the English papers have gone insane. bongo, I think you misread my article if you think I’m saying the Irish should quit moaning.

I wasn’t telling the Irish to get a grip, quite the contrary (read the final paragraph).

I was telling the English media to get a grip. From the contact I’ve had, the Irish have been perfectly rational about the whole situation, while the English papers have gone insane.

]]> By: eldaddio http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/19/injuries-and-handballs-the-footballing-world-needs-to-get-a-grip/#comment-31546 eldaddio Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:04:09 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=980#comment-31546 @ bongo: fair comment. For me though, whatever the outcome or argument, Henry blatantly cheated, and that makes me feel sad. It's not a great advertisement for the game of football, is it? @ bongo: fair comment.

For me though, whatever the outcome or argument, Henry blatantly cheated, and that makes me feel sad. It’s not a great advertisement for the game of football, is it?

]]> By: bongo http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/19/injuries-and-handballs-the-footballing-world-needs-to-get-a-grip/#comment-31545 bongo Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:38:28 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=980#comment-31545 Why don't you enlgish twats and your sensationalist meida p*** off. This our problem not yours and we don't like you turning it into a bullshit story about Henry, we have no problem with henry we believe the ref and fifa are at fault. Yes it happens and yes people will moan about it, that is our right we were cheated out of the world cup, your media is still crying about maradonna, you don't see us telling you to shut up about that. You even use Henry's mistake to draw comaprisons with marradona, in some vain attempt to tell us you know how we feel. You don't, maradonna scored a goal with his hand and you from then on saw him as the enemy, that's an english reaction. Henry handles the ball that leads to a goal and we want an explanation from the ref and fifa. Only irish man u fans are blaming him(but they're scum no matter what the nationality), everyone else wants to know what the referee was smoking. Why the play offs were seeded in the first place and why the big decisions went france's way. Henry could have held his hands up an said to the ref it wasn't a goal(think nobody has? one word Arshavin), why do we not have extra refs like europa league for such big matches? Why is there no video ref? Because it would break up the game? Have you ever timed how long it takes a game to restart after an incident like that? the average is two minutes, it would take less time to review it on video, you'd have no protests from players and no controversy. Keep your ignorant, idiotic opinions about the irish need to get a grip to yourselves, until you can talk about argentina without bringing up the hand of god goal. Why don’t you enlgish twats and your sensationalist meida p*** off. This our problem not yours and we don’t like you turning it into a bullshit story about Henry, we have no problem with henry we believe the ref and fifa are at fault.
Yes it happens and yes people will moan about it, that is our right we were cheated out of the world cup, your media is still crying about maradonna, you don’t see us telling you to shut up about that. You even use Henry’s mistake to draw comaprisons with marradona, in some vain attempt to tell us you know how we feel.
You don’t, maradonna scored a goal with his hand and you from then on saw him as the enemy, that’s an english reaction. Henry handles the ball that leads to a goal and we want an explanation from the ref and fifa. Only irish man u fans are blaming him(but they’re scum no matter what the nationality), everyone else wants to know what the referee was smoking. Why the play offs were seeded in the first place and why the big decisions went france’s way. Henry could have held his hands up an said to the ref it wasn’t a goal(think nobody has? one word Arshavin), why do we not have extra refs like europa league for such big matches? Why is there no video ref? Because it would break up the game? Have you ever timed how long it takes a game to restart after an incident like that? the average is two minutes, it would take less time to review it on video, you’d have no protests from players and no controversy.

Keep your ignorant, idiotic opinions about the irish need to get a grip to yourselves, until you can talk about argentina without bringing up the hand of god goal.

]]> By: Pete http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/19/injuries-and-handballs-the-footballing-world-needs-to-get-a-grip/#comment-31543 Pete Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:29:40 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=980#comment-31543 I think it's easy for people to go overboard when the see others doing the same, which is why I think Sky Sports have a lot to answer for. They are reporting nothing else. I feel for Ireland, and was gutted to see them lose (not least because the seeding decision made me instantly want France and Portugal to go out), but football is cruel, and we have to move on. I think it’s easy for people to go overboard when the see others doing the same, which is why I think Sky Sports have a lot to answer for. They are reporting nothing else.

I feel for Ireland, and was gutted to see them lose (not least because the seeding decision made me instantly want France and Portugal to go out), but football is cruel, and we have to move on.

]]> By: Alex http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/19/injuries-and-handballs-the-footballing-world-needs-to-get-a-grip/#comment-31542 Alex Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:21:14 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=980#comment-31542 I want the 2001 FA Cup Final to be null and void so we can replay it as Henchoz deliberately handled on the line to stop us going 2-0 up and going on to win the cup. I want the 2001 FA Cup Final to be null and void so we can replay it as Henchoz deliberately handled on the line to stop us going 2-0 up and going on to win the cup.

]]> By: Bonsta http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/19/injuries-and-handballs-the-footballing-world-needs-to-get-a-grip/#comment-31541 Bonsta Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:12:59 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=980#comment-31541 Wow a refreshing view for once other than the usual "lets jump the bandwagon" view and am not even French or Irish. AS said above GETa F$£ING GRIP Wow a refreshing view for once other than the usual “lets jump the bandwagon” view and am not even French or Irish. AS said above GETa F$£ING GRIP

]]> By: orbit http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/19/injuries-and-handballs-the-footballing-world-needs-to-get-a-grip/#comment-31540 orbit Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:55:06 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=980#comment-31540 yes, like he said GET A FUCKING GRIP. you dont change the rules just because you were on the losing side!! how many teams have been 'robbed'? was there much outcry? NO! if ireland did it against france or any other team? PROBABLY NOT! why would you remove the spec in anothers eye before removing the log in your own? c'mon now! it is very unfortunate for ireland but france IS through, regardless of liam bradys and co. reactions! yes, like he said GET A FUCKING GRIP. you dont change the rules just because you were on the losing side!! how many teams have been ‘robbed’? was there much outcry? NO! if ireland did it against france or any other team? PROBABLY NOT! why would you remove the spec in anothers eye before removing the log in your own? c’mon now! it is very unfortunate for ireland but france IS through, regardless of liam bradys and co. reactions!

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