Comments on: The kids may get chances earlier, but they get critiqued earlier too http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/ Arsenal News and Views - An Arsenal Blog Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:28:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: dharg http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/#comment-31576 dharg Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:14:40 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=990#comment-31576 Pete, Another top post. I think impatientance is a probelm for the whole of society not just for some of our so called fans. Society on the whole seems to have lost it's ability to wait for something be it a young player to develop or to save up for something they want to buy. Everything appears to be geared towards instant gratification. Buy now on credit rather than save. I for one am happy to wait. I do sense that some footballers can also be impatient but Arsenal seem to do well to not only develop their youngsters physically but also mentally. Arsene will have his work cut out keeping the exisitng team (who, as you have pointed out, are still young) and the upcoming youngsters. But I think it is a nice problem to have and should ensure we have the best of the best in our first team. Any who do not quite make it are set up to suceed elsewhere. Pete,

Another top post.

I think impatientance is a probelm for the whole of society not just for some of our so called fans.

Society on the whole seems to have lost it’s ability to wait for something be it a young player to develop or to save up for something they want to buy.

Everything appears to be geared towards instant gratification. Buy now on credit rather than save.

I for one am happy to wait.

I do sense that some footballers can also be impatient but Arsenal seem to do well to not only develop their youngsters physically but also mentally.

Arsene will have his work cut out keeping the exisitng team (who, as you have pointed out, are still young) and the upcoming youngsters.

But I think it is a nice problem to have and should ensure we have the best of the best in our first team.

Any who do not quite make it are set up to suceed elsewhere.

]]> By: Pete http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/#comment-31575 Pete Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:24:26 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=990#comment-31575 It certainly surprises me sometimes when you look at the age of some of our players. Because the youngsters come through so early, it is actually really easy to overestimate the age of the first team regulars. Clichy at 24 is an example - I must admit I think of him as being at his peak, yet he's actually years from that. Exciting stuff, certainly. The same is true of almost everyone in the squad. Gallas and perhaps Almunia apart, all the rest have time on their side. It certainly surprises me sometimes when you look at the age of some of our players.

Because the youngsters come through so early, it is actually really easy to overestimate the age of the first team regulars. Clichy at 24 is an example – I must admit I think of him as being at his peak, yet he’s actually years from that. Exciting stuff, certainly.

The same is true of almost everyone in the squad. Gallas and perhaps Almunia apart, all the rest have time on their side.

]]> By: Donnyfan1 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/#comment-31574 Donnyfan1 Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:46:35 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=990#comment-31574 Gallas,Arshavin and Rosicky apart- it will be at least 5 seasons before Arsenals current first eleven players are approaching peak. The fringe players even longer than that. The mind boggles at how good they could be! Chelsea will have to drastically rebuild and spend half a billion AGAIN to keep in front. Watching that- that's the real fun. Sit back and enjoy the fact that they can't beat Arsenal on skill- only at kick and rush. Without doubt, Chelski are the HOOFBALL champions of Europe. Pity everyone prefers to watch FOOTBALL. Gallas,Arshavin and Rosicky apart- it will be at least 5 seasons before Arsenals current first eleven players are approaching peak. The fringe players even longer than that.
The mind boggles at how good they could be! Chelsea will have to drastically rebuild and spend half a billion AGAIN to keep in front. Watching that- that’s the real fun. Sit back and enjoy the fact that they can’t beat Arsenal on skill- only at kick and rush. Without doubt, Chelski are the HOOFBALL champions of Europe. Pity everyone prefers to watch FOOTBALL.

]]> By: b http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/#comment-31572 b Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:25:43 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=990#comment-31572 A good example of shiiit blogs that always slander anyone and everyone that is connected with Arsenal is LE Grove. Why this guy calls himself an arsenal fan i do not know. I still have not seen one article that is positive about the club. They are all moan moan moan, buy buy buy, aw sucks aw sucks aw sucks. moan moan moan more. I mean honestly, if you disagree with the way the club is ran, if you think the kids are to immature and cannot do their job, if you miss silver so much that you rather slander your club off than support them, maybe it is time for you to turncoat? Support someone els? Support someone that plays football the way you think they should? With mature players that never fail and that all costed 10M pluss when they were bought? I for one love arsenal due to the way they play, due to the way they are brave enough to go for youth and develop players. We are always top 4, we have been in CL for god knows how many years, last year we got to the semis! How can you say that is bad? We dont win Carling cup because we give the young'uns a run, but id rather see them flourish and get knocked out in the quarter finals or the semies than to win it with our standard team. Why? Because they make Carling cup worth watching! My solution for all of you out there that are fed up and tired and do not like the way the club is ran and the policy it has on buying and using young players. CHANGE CLUB ALLEGIANCE! Because as long as AW is manager(and lets pray he lasts atleast 10 more years) the policy will not change. So either live with it and give our young players some slack(Like Diaby,Vela,Denilson etc) or support someone ells that matches your view of footy better! A good example of shiiit blogs that always slander anyone and everyone that is connected with Arsenal is LE Grove. Why this guy calls himself an arsenal fan i do not know. I still have not seen one article that is positive about the club. They are all moan moan moan, buy buy buy, aw sucks aw sucks aw sucks. moan moan moan more.

I mean honestly, if you disagree with the way the club is ran, if you think the kids are to immature and cannot do their job, if you miss silver so much that you rather slander your club off than support them, maybe it is time for you to turncoat? Support someone els? Support someone that plays football the way you think they should? With mature players that never fail and that all costed 10M pluss when they were bought?

I for one love arsenal due to the way they play, due to the way they are brave enough to go for youth and develop players. We are always top 4, we have been in CL for god knows how many years, last year we got to the semis! How can you say that is bad? We dont win Carling cup because we give the young’uns a run, but id rather see them flourish and get knocked out in the quarter finals or the semies than to win it with our standard team. Why? Because they make Carling cup worth watching!

My solution for all of you out there that are fed up and tired and do not like the way the club is ran and the policy it has on buying and using young players. CHANGE CLUB ALLEGIANCE! Because as long as AW is manager(and lets pray he lasts atleast 10 more years) the policy will not change. So either live with it and give our young players some slack(Like Diaby,Vela,Denilson etc) or support someone ells that matches your view of footy better!

]]> By: FunGunner http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/#comment-31570 FunGunner Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:27:15 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=990#comment-31570 Excellent - well written and thought-provoking. Excellent – well written and thought-provoking.

]]> By: Pete http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/#comment-31569 Pete Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:15:10 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=990#comment-31569 roger, I have seen at least three blogs slating Vela unnecessarily not just for his performance on Tuesday, but for not making the progress expected of him. That's what drove me to write this in the first place (although it is a wider issue than just Vela). Anon, thanks - I guess some of the problem is the insatiable thirst for news. We know so much more about players so much earlier in their career now. That can result in some hugely harsh judgements. roger, I have seen at least three blogs slating Vela unnecessarily not just for his performance on Tuesday, but for not making the progress expected of him.

That’s what drove me to write this in the first place (although it is a wider issue than just Vela).

Anon, thanks – I guess some of the problem is the insatiable thirst for news. We know so much more about players so much earlier in their career now. That can result in some hugely harsh judgements.

]]> By: roger http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/#comment-31568 roger Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:20:23 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=990#comment-31568 What are you on about?,I have'nt seen anybody slaggin Vela for his first start??? or are you just filling pages with a no story/so I'll make one,intention..Puzzling What are you on about?,I have’nt seen anybody slaggin Vela for his first start??? or are you just filling pages with a no story/so I’ll make one,intention..Puzzling

]]> By: Anon http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/#comment-31567 Anon Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:32:18 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=990#comment-31567 Completely agree with this article mate. I feel that the next stage in the forward momentum of this club is in the cultivating of cultured fans. ...and bloggers have a role to play in this. "With greater power comes greater responsibilities" Completely agree with this article mate.
I feel that the next stage in the forward momentum of this club is in the cultivating of cultured fans.
…and bloggers have a role to play in this.
“With greater power comes greater responsibilities”

]]> By: Pete http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/#comment-31566 Pete Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:27:30 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=990#comment-31566 Thanks! Thanks!

]]> By: arseholic http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/27/the-kids-may-get-chances-earlier-but-they-get-critiqued-earlier-too/#comment-31565 arseholic Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:14:13 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=990#comment-31565 Nice one mate! Nice one mate!

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