Comments on: Arsenal 0-3 Chelsea: Not many positives to take from this one http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/30/arsenal-0-3-chelsea-not-many-positives-to-take-from-this-one/ Arsenal News and Views - An Arsenal Blog Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:45:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pete http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/30/arsenal-0-3-chelsea-not-many-positives-to-take-from-this-one/#comment-31591 Pete Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:13:14 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=995#comment-31591 nikogunner, why would you offload Bendtner? Surely that's shooting ourselves in the foot, bearing in mind he is now the only physical striker we have left for the season. nikogunner, why would you offload Bendtner? Surely that’s shooting ourselves in the foot, bearing in mind he is now the only physical striker we have left for the season.

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]]> By: nikogunner http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/30/arsenal-0-3-chelsea-not-many-positives-to-take-from-this-one/#comment-31588 nikogunner Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:56:17 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=995#comment-31588 I think it time to re frame our thinking. First we must deal with the December crisis. I hear We got a Simpson playing Ok in The championship. Maybe he ought to be recalled as a way to put out the fire. Wenger thinks Walcott will naturally become central attacker, Well he tried Henry when Anelka Left and look at what we discovered. So Walcott and Ashavin with Vela should be asked to replace Bendtner and RvP for the time being, as the Simpson Guy gets tried. Eduardo and Rosicky can Flank, then in the middle Nasri, Fab, Denilson can take charge with Song centre half. The Chelsea Defence can continue with Gallas and Verm told to show they are the men of the team. January, offload dudu and Bendtner. Get big, no nonsense, clinical tall and powerful finisher(s), get someone who can cause Song sleepless nights while away in Africa and sign a Utility Back player just in case a new injury happens there. We must put up a decent run from this weekend and go fore honours in the Champions League. I think it time to re frame our thinking. First we must deal with the December crisis. I hear We got a Simpson playing Ok in The championship. Maybe he ought to be recalled as a way to put out the fire. Wenger thinks Walcott will naturally become central attacker, Well he tried Henry when Anelka Left and look at what we discovered. So Walcott and Ashavin with Vela should be asked to replace Bendtner and RvP for the time being, as the Simpson Guy gets tried. Eduardo and Rosicky can Flank, then in the middle Nasri, Fab, Denilson can take charge with Song centre half. The Chelsea Defence can continue with Gallas and Verm told to show they are the men of the team. January, offload dudu and Bendtner. Get big, no nonsense, clinical tall and powerful finisher(s), get someone who can cause Song sleepless nights while away in Africa and sign a Utility Back player just in case a new injury happens there. We must put up a decent run from this weekend and go fore honours in the Champions League.

]]> By: Faisal Ali http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/30/arsenal-0-3-chelsea-not-many-positives-to-take-from-this-one/#comment-31587 Faisal Ali Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:36:03 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=995#comment-31587 I dont believe thats true about chelsea being better then us! the ONLY differance last night was drogba! we coped with them in midfield and if we had van persie back then it would have been a different story! remember last year when we won 2-1 with a van P double? they had the same team then and its not like they became stronger and we became weaker physically! eduardo had many chances to do sthn but didnt and a better striker or one in better form would have put away and changed the game! people forget that we had 2 starters out while chelsea only had a right back problem which theyve had all season so theyre used to it! plus players like rosicky nasri eduardo vela walcott and denilson have only recently came back from long term injuries and havnt hit top gear yet unlike chelsea who have basically had all their team fit for long periods of the season and their injured players before the game have only been out for a matter of a few weeks! if the roles wer reversed i assure you we would have eaten them alive!! I dont believe thats true about chelsea being better then us! the ONLY differance last night was drogba! we coped with them in midfield and if we had van persie back then it would have been a different story! remember last year when we won 2-1 with a van P double? they had the same team then and its not like they became stronger and we became weaker physically! eduardo had many chances to do sthn but didnt and a better striker or one in better form would have put away and changed the game! people forget that we had 2 starters out while chelsea only had a right back problem which theyve had all season so theyre used to it! plus players like rosicky nasri eduardo vela walcott and denilson have only recently came back from long term injuries and havnt hit top gear yet unlike chelsea who have basically had all their team fit for long periods of the season and their injured players before the game have only been out for a matter of a few weeks! if the roles wer reversed i assure you we would have eaten them alive!!

]]> By: Pete http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/30/arsenal-0-3-chelsea-not-many-positives-to-take-from-this-one/#comment-31586 Pete Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:24:49 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=995#comment-31586 I have to agree with the comments, thanks for the feedback. I do think we have sufficient fight, but the physical lack of presence yesterday made that effort seem lightweight. Can't fault them for effort, but each player was giving 2-3 inches away to their direct opponent. I'm sure Wenger is well aware of the gulf, but like many top managers, won't admit it publicly. I'm sure he's had plenty to say privately though. The post-match conference was a classic attempt to deflect attention away from what was a painful defeat. I have to agree with the comments, thanks for the feedback.

I do think we have sufficient fight, but the physical lack of presence yesterday made that effort seem lightweight. Can’t fault them for effort, but each player was giving 2-3 inches away to their direct opponent.

I’m sure Wenger is well aware of the gulf, but like many top managers, won’t admit it publicly. I’m sure he’s had plenty to say privately though. The post-match conference was a classic attempt to deflect attention away from what was a painful defeat.

]]> By: Gunner http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/30/arsenal-0-3-chelsea-not-many-positives-to-take-from-this-one/#comment-31585 Gunner Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:05:54 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=995#comment-31585 A lot of truth in all 3 comments. Afraid I have to agree with Foulke here. Chelsea were strategically superior yesterday. Odu pointed out exactly why! Chelsea have a team that is 'physically' very strong, but it is a team with a balanced level of quality in all departments. Arsenal do not have that. The first comment talked about 'fight'. I am afraid Arsenal do not have enough of that either! I like Arsene's football, but for him to try to say that Arsenal were not outplayed yesterday is unrealistic. 0-3 is clear proof of that. He would do better to congratulate the Chelsea team and fans on a 'terrific'team performance spearheaded by a great center forward. Nothing more to say!!! Wenger is right, Arsenal stuck with them for 40 minutes. But the task of maintaining that level of performance in all 3 departments for 90 minutes was too hard for them. No use dominating midfield when you are 2 down and in the second half! Unless you score 3!!! Watching the game really gave you the feeling of the men against the boys unfortunately. Arsenal failed to protect the right flank at the end of the first half and that is where they were undone. Not sure where they go from here!!! Well done Chelsea. They look like championship quality so far, good luck to them A lot of truth in all 3 comments. Afraid I have to agree with Foulke here. Chelsea were strategically superior yesterday. Odu pointed out exactly why! Chelsea have a team that is ‘physically’ very strong, but it is a team with a balanced level of quality in all departments. Arsenal do not have that. The first comment talked about ‘fight’. I am afraid Arsenal do not have enough of that either!
I like Arsene’s football, but for him to try to say that Arsenal were not outplayed yesterday is unrealistic. 0-3 is clear proof of that. He would do better to congratulate the Chelsea team and fans on a ‘terrific’team performance spearheaded by a great center forward. Nothing more to say!!!
Wenger is right, Arsenal stuck with them for 40 minutes. But the task of maintaining that level of performance in all 3 departments for 90 minutes was too hard for them. No use dominating midfield when you are 2 down and in the second half! Unless you score 3!!!
Watching the game really gave you the feeling of the men against the boys unfortunately.
Arsenal failed to protect the right flank at the end of the first half and that is where they were undone.
Not sure where they go from here!!!
Well done Chelsea. They look like championship quality so far, good luck to them

]]> By: Foulke http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/30/arsenal-0-3-chelsea-not-many-positives-to-take-from-this-one/#comment-31584 Foulke Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:25:49 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=995#comment-31584 I'm a Chelsea fan and have (and of course enjoyed) many similar hair-shirt articles by Arsenal fans. I understand that you feel you were shown up, outclassed etc, but there does seem to be an overreaction. We Blues fans knew yesterday would happen just like it did: the physical and tactical gulf was well-flagged. I really think the reason that you are all so distraught it that your manager has produced over the last few years a yawning chasm between the presentation of his vanity project and the reality. The reality was yesterday. We know Chelsea will lose one or two more games. But our team spirit, strategy (including spending money) and tactics are all rooted in reality. We are realistic, not deluded. Wenger, as his ludicrous post-match performance betrayed, has lost touch with that grounding. I’m a Chelsea fan and have (and of course enjoyed) many similar hair-shirt articles by Arsenal fans. I understand that you feel you were shown up, outclassed etc, but there does seem to be an overreaction. We Blues fans knew yesterday would happen just like it did: the physical and tactical gulf was well-flagged.
I really think the reason that you are all so distraught it that your manager has produced over the last few years a yawning chasm between the presentation of his vanity project and the reality. The reality was yesterday.
We know Chelsea will lose one or two more games. But our team spirit, strategy (including spending money) and tactics are all rooted in reality. We are realistic, not deluded.
Wenger, as his ludicrous post-match performance betrayed, has lost touch with that grounding.

]]> By: Odu http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/30/arsenal-0-3-chelsea-not-many-positives-to-take-from-this-one/#comment-31583 Odu Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:54:18 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=995#comment-31583 This is exactly what many have been saying, there is a need for a physical striker. That is the trick in chelsea. Their players have no special skills but possess a lot of strength and are very physical. There is the need to sign a few very physical players. This is the trend in EPL and same reason why we lost to sunderland. As long as the manager keep refusing to sign such players, we can never beat a team like chelsea. This is exactly what many have been saying, there is a need for a physical striker. That is the trick in chelsea. Their players have no special skills but possess a lot of strength and are very physical. There is the need to sign a few very physical players. This is the trend in EPL and same reason why we lost to sunderland. As long as the manager keep refusing to sign such players, we can never beat a team like chelsea.

]]> By: atr8goon http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2009/11/30/arsenal-0-3-chelsea-not-many-positives-to-take-from-this-one/#comment-31582 atr8goon Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:47:54 +0000 http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/?p=995#comment-31582 There are 3 positives to get out of this massive disappointment: 1)Thanks to the injury to RvP Wenger will have to dip into the transfer market in january for a striker as well as a CDM. As much as I'd like to see him buy a CB and/or keeper as well-a striker and defensive middy will have to do. 2)The last time Arsenal lost 2 games in a row they went on an unbeaten run of 16-0 (don't quote me) in all competitions. So hopefully they can repeat that or do better. 3)Now Arsene as well as the players see the gap within the top tier clubs. Arsenal were a bit unlucky on sunday with the own goal and the disallowed goal it could easily have been 2-1 to the Blues. Now they see how hard they must work and continue to progress in order to gain honors this term. Nothing will be given to them, they must FIGHT for their chance to be CHAMPIONS again. There are 3 positives to get out of this massive disappointment: 1)Thanks to the injury to RvP Wenger will have to dip into the transfer market in january for a striker as well as a CDM. As much as I’d like to see him buy a CB and/or keeper as well-a striker and defensive middy will have to do. 2)The last time Arsenal lost 2 games in a row they went on an unbeaten run of 16-0 (don’t quote me) in all competitions. So hopefully they can repeat that or do better. 3)Now Arsene as well as the players see the gap within the top tier clubs. Arsenal were a bit unlucky on sunday with the own goal and the disallowed goal it could easily have been 2-1 to the Blues. Now they see how hard they must work and continue to progress in order to gain honors this term. Nothing will be given to them, they must FIGHT for their chance to be CHAMPIONS again.

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