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	<title>Comments on: Trial by media is getting to be a major concern &#8211; Eduardo/Henry and Sky Sports Justice</title>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2010/01/18/trial-by-media-is-getting-to-be-a-major-concern-eduardohenry-and-sky-sports-justice/#comment-33095</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trial by media also means coming down hard on managers who try and influence the game through nonsense ,Sir Alex ,for example ,there,s only one time keeper who matters on the pitch ,the ref  not Sir Alex or his coaching staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trial by media also means coming down hard on managers who try and influence the game through nonsense ,Sir Alex ,for example ,there,s only one time keeper who matters on the pitch ,the ref  not Sir Alex or his coaching staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruud van Nistelrooy ,Jurgen Klinsmann,D
idier Drogba ,Michael Essien ,Steven Gerrard ,Wayne Rooney  just some of the all time top divers in the game over the last 15 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruud van Nistelrooy ,Jurgen Klinsmann,D<br />
idier Drogba ,Michael Essien ,Steven Gerrard ,Wayne Rooney  just some of the all time top divers in the game over the last 15 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2010/01/18/trial-by-media-is-getting-to-be-a-major-concern-eduardohenry-and-sky-sports-justice/#comment-33093</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With trial by camera ,so to speak why is it that the referees are still so frigging pedantic .The top players in the Premier League earn huge salaries compared to the refs but these same refs halt play call the infringing player back and delay the action ,get on with it and show cards where necessary ,too much refereeing bull these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With trial by camera ,so to speak why is it that the referees are still so frigging pedantic .The top players in the Premier League earn huge salaries compared to the refs but these same refs halt play call the infringing player back and delay the action ,get on with it and show cards where necessary ,too much refereeing bull these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.

&quot;no-one can 100 per cent accurately say what happened except eduardo himself&quot;

I agree with this, which is why I have been referring to my opinion as exactly that, not fact. You are free to disagree, and you clearly do, which is also fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.</p>
<p>&#8220;no-one can 100 per cent accurately say what happened except eduardo himself&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with this, which is why I have been referring to my opinion as exactly that, not fact. You are free to disagree, and you clearly do, which is also fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>timao, so much aggression, relax.

I&#039;m not a victim of trial by media. When I saw the match live, I thought it was a dive. The endless slow motion replays have not convinced me otherwise. The witchhunt that following was unpleasant and overblown, and I disagreed with it from the start, BUT I always believed it was a dive.

Me saying I believe Eduardo was already on the way down means I don&#039;t care about Arsenal. That is somewhat odd logic.

There are, however, multiple forms of dives. There are those where no contact is expected, and the player is simply trying to con the ref. There are those when contact is expected, and the player falls early to make it more obvious. The latter category is the one Eduardo, Rooney (this season), and Lucas at the weekend fall into. The former covers much of Ronaldo&#039;s and Drogba&#039;s dive, and Rooney&#039;s against us to end the unbeaten run.

Crucial point: An incident can be a dive and a foul. Case in point - Lucas dived at the weekend, and on his way down was taken out. That is both. Of course, it seems to be a circumstance that officials and pundits cannot agree on, something I&#039;ve never understood.

As for summing up the article in six words, why would I do that? It is a focus on the hypocritical and selective nature of the national media, and the way in which authorities react to that by investigating the same chosen stories.

I&#039;m not sure I can sum that up in six words, which is why I posted it here, not on Twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>timao, so much aggression, relax.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a victim of trial by media. When I saw the match live, I thought it was a dive. The endless slow motion replays have not convinced me otherwise. The witchhunt that following was unpleasant and overblown, and I disagreed with it from the start, BUT I always believed it was a dive.</p>
<p>Me saying I believe Eduardo was already on the way down means I don&#8217;t care about Arsenal. That is somewhat odd logic.</p>
<p>There are, however, multiple forms of dives. There are those where no contact is expected, and the player is simply trying to con the ref. There are those when contact is expected, and the player falls early to make it more obvious. The latter category is the one Eduardo, Rooney (this season), and Lucas at the weekend fall into. The former covers much of Ronaldo&#8217;s and Drogba&#8217;s dive, and Rooney&#8217;s against us to end the unbeaten run.</p>
<p>Crucial point: An incident can be a dive and a foul. Case in point &#8211; Lucas dived at the weekend, and on his way down was taken out. That is both. Of course, it seems to be a circumstance that officials and pundits cannot agree on, something I&#8217;ve never understood.</p>
<p>As for summing up the article in six words, why would I do that? It is a focus on the hypocritical and selective nature of the national media, and the way in which authorities react to that by investigating the same chosen stories.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I can sum that up in six words, which is why I posted it here, not on Twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry White</title>
		<link>http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2010/01/18/trial-by-media-is-getting-to-be-a-major-concern-eduardohenry-and-sky-sports-justice/#comment-33087</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just remember Peter Crouch pulling the pony-tail of the West Indian defender in the last World cup to score a goal
Totally premeditated!. What were the comments, laugh, he`s English.
The media regretably provide what the illiterate fans want!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remember Peter Crouch pulling the pony-tail of the West Indian defender in the last World cup to score a goal<br />
Totally premeditated!. What were the comments, laugh, he`s English.<br />
The media regretably provide what the illiterate fans want!.</p>
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		<title>By: timao</title>
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		<dc:creator>timao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way... in six words please, what is the point of the article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way&#8230; in six words please, what is the point of the article?</p>
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		<title>By: timao</title>
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		<dc:creator>timao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whatever the point of the article i&#039;m picking up on the fact you are repeating the libel against eduardo. you are a victim of trial by media.  in fact fifa rules state that there oes not have to be any contact for a fould to be committed.  simply diving in recklessly at an opponent can be a foul regardless.  as it happens eduardo was knocked over.  you think he was on his way down already - that just shows you don&#039;t give a shit about arsenal, because regardless of allegiances - no-one can 100 per cent accurately say what happened except eduardo himself.  and he says he did not dive.  or are you calling him a liar as well as a cheat now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whatever the point of the article i&#8217;m picking up on the fact you are repeating the libel against eduardo. you are a victim of trial by media.  in fact fifa rules state that there oes not have to be any contact for a fould to be committed.  simply diving in recklessly at an opponent can be a foul regardless.  as it happens eduardo was knocked over.  you think he was on his way down already &#8211; that just shows you don&#8217;t give a shit about arsenal, because regardless of allegiances &#8211; no-one can 100 per cent accurately say what happened except eduardo himself.  and he says he did not dive.  or are you calling him a liar as well as a cheat now?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>timao, I believe Eduardo dived because he was on his way down before contact would have occurred. Same with Rooney, same with Lucas at the weekend. I will continue to call a spade a spade, irrespective of my allegiances.

I do however agree that the incident is the only blot on Eduardo&#039;s copybook, and he was therefore extremely harshly treated given comparisons to some of his rivals.

He was not proved not to have dived by a forensic examination. He was cleared because FIFA rules state very clearly that any contact means no dive, even if, as with Rooney&#039;s one over Almunia, the player is already horizontal when that contact arrives.

I think you&#039;re missing the point of the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>timao, I believe Eduardo dived because he was on his way down before contact would have occurred. Same with Rooney, same with Lucas at the weekend. I will continue to call a spade a spade, irrespective of my allegiances.</p>
<p>I do however agree that the incident is the only blot on Eduardo&#8217;s copybook, and he was therefore extremely harshly treated given comparisons to some of his rivals.</p>
<p>He was not proved not to have dived by a forensic examination. He was cleared because FIFA rules state very clearly that any contact means no dive, even if, as with Rooney&#8217;s one over Almunia, the player is already horizontal when that contact arrives.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point of the article.</p>
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		<title>By: timao</title>
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		<dc:creator>timao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are a moron, you undermine arsenal with this crap.  why do YOU believe eduardo dived...???  he did not dive,as was PROVED by a forensic examination of the video footage.  Eduardo is not a diver and in all his years of playing there is not a single piece of video to contradict this. Eduardo is one of the few decent honourable footballers left in the game.  you can shove your pathetic, weak-minded allegations where the sun don&#039;t shine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are a moron, you undermine arsenal with this crap.  why do YOU believe eduardo dived&#8230;???  he did not dive,as was PROVED by a forensic examination of the video footage.  Eduardo is not a diver and in all his years of playing there is not a single piece of video to contradict this. Eduardo is one of the few decent honourable footballers left in the game.  you can shove your pathetic, weak-minded allegations where the sun don&#8217;t shine.</p>
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