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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.thebeautifulgroan.com/2010/04/07/sometimes-you-have-to-hold-you-hands-up-shrug-and-move-on/#comment-34239</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich, it is difficult to know how we are going to close the gap on Barcelona, but I think we can agree that we aren&#039;t going to do it by signing superstars.

The only approach left is to sign young, develop, and resist the overtures of the bigger clubs. It seems to get tougher as the number of super-rich continues to increase, both in our league and abroad.

But I don&#039;t think we&#039;re a million miles off - we need to imitate Barca&#039;s work ethic though. Credit to the players for never giving in, but Barcelona are in a league of their own because they are a ferocity of team spirit to individual talent. That&#039;s pretty rare.

Agreed on Eduardo and Vela, and a shame in both cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich, it is difficult to know how we are going to close the gap on Barcelona, but I think we can agree that we aren&#8217;t going to do it by signing superstars.</p>
<p>The only approach left is to sign young, develop, and resist the overtures of the bigger clubs. It seems to get tougher as the number of super-rich continues to increase, both in our league and abroad.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re a million miles off &#8211; we need to imitate Barca&#8217;s work ethic though. Credit to the players for never giving in, but Barcelona are in a league of their own because they are a ferocity of team spirit to individual talent. That&#8217;s pretty rare.</p>
<p>Agreed on Eduardo and Vela, and a shame in both cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Trexler gunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trexler gunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Messi was truly brilliant. Silvestre was at fault for a couple plays but in the end Messi was phenomenal. We learned our lesson from the first game and pressed them a lot more and alot harder this time around.

In the first game Song essentially marked Messi out of the game; he had his moments but for the most part Song was very effective. Without him Messi was able to roam much more freely and we paid for that. I think we would have been able to hold that lead and perhaps add to it if Song had been healthy, he was definitely the man we missed the most, in my opinion.

We obviously missed our Captain as well; missed his heart and desire and leadership.

It looks like Arsene is now willing to shell out the cash to bring in some developed talent to support our large cast of developing talent. If we buy wisely this summer and can avoid the injury bug this team can truly rival the Barcelonas and ManUres of the world in the coming years, and for a long time to come because the system is in place and will keep pumping out the talent.

Let&#039;s crush Sp*rs and knock them out of contention for Champs league!!

Keep the Faith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Messi was truly brilliant. Silvestre was at fault for a couple plays but in the end Messi was phenomenal. We learned our lesson from the first game and pressed them a lot more and alot harder this time around.</p>
<p>In the first game Song essentially marked Messi out of the game; he had his moments but for the most part Song was very effective. Without him Messi was able to roam much more freely and we paid for that. I think we would have been able to hold that lead and perhaps add to it if Song had been healthy, he was definitely the man we missed the most, in my opinion.</p>
<p>We obviously missed our Captain as well; missed his heart and desire and leadership.</p>
<p>It looks like Arsene is now willing to shell out the cash to bring in some developed talent to support our large cast of developing talent. If we buy wisely this summer and can avoid the injury bug this team can truly rival the Barcelonas and ManUres of the world in the coming years, and for a long time to come because the system is in place and will keep pumping out the talent.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s crush Sp*rs and knock them out of contention for Champs league!!</p>
<p>Keep the Faith</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line..... Spurs will thrash you gay gooners 3-0 and send wenger packing his bags for madrid period..........COME ON YOU SPURS!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line&#8230;.. Spurs will thrash you gay gooners 3-0 and send wenger packing his bags for madrid period&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.COME ON YOU SPURS!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are certain players who need to step up, and credit to Wenger for giving them time - if we had our way, Song, Eboue, Bendtner and co would have left the club yonks ago.

Diaby has come on this season, Denilson recently too.

It&#039;s strange - the press, and bloggers, keep banging on about the lack of experience, yet for me it is our most experienced players that are often those at fault. The ones we are seeing as our future are developing nicely (granted that, as you say, some still lack positional discipline and responsibility).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are certain players who need to step up, and credit to Wenger for giving them time &#8211; if we had our way, Song, Eboue, Bendtner and co would have left the club yonks ago.</p>
<p>Diaby has come on this season, Denilson recently too.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s strange &#8211; the press, and bloggers, keep banging on about the lack of experience, yet for me it is our most experienced players that are often those at fault. The ones we are seeing as our future are developing nicely (granted that, as you say, some still lack positional discipline and responsibility).</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed it won&#039;t be by buying superstars that we catch up but by tactically developing a team that understands its responsibilities. 

Whilst we continue to have wide midfield players allowing opposing fullbacks to go past them and having a reliance on Song as the only defensive midfield option, we will always be ripe for picking by a tactically astute manager.

Arsene seems to have the right idea in developing a unity between the players by growing them together but as it stands it just doesn&#039;t look like they all understand what is expected of them. 

It also increases the likelihood that players want to leave. It wouldn&#039;t of gone unnoticed that Clichy and Nasri both vented their frustration at other players when their efforts to close down weren&#039;t matched. And that&#039;s not even taking into account the likes of Arshavin and Cesc who are both in demand and will be desperate to add some silverware to their collection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed it won&#8217;t be by buying superstars that we catch up but by tactically developing a team that understands its responsibilities. </p>
<p>Whilst we continue to have wide midfield players allowing opposing fullbacks to go past them and having a reliance on Song as the only defensive midfield option, we will always be ripe for picking by a tactically astute manager.</p>
<p>Arsene seems to have the right idea in developing a unity between the players by growing them together but as it stands it just doesn&#8217;t look like they all understand what is expected of them. </p>
<p>It also increases the likelihood that players want to leave. It wouldn&#8217;t of gone unnoticed that Clichy and Nasri both vented their frustration at other players when their efforts to close down weren&#8217;t matched. And that&#8217;s not even taking into account the likes of Arshavin and Cesc who are both in demand and will be desperate to add some silverware to their collection.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Trond Bendiksen:Remember me my friend when the news brakes out in the summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Trond Bendiksen:Remember me my friend when the news brakes out in the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Trond Bendiktsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trond Bendiktsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anonymous: Also, I am &lt;b&gt;your&lt;/b&gt; cousin, not-enough-times-removed, and I personally know that you are an attention-seeking pathological liar. I also know your mama has told you to stay away from these forums. Now, do what yo’ mama says!
(also, remember, Pat Rice isn’t really Pat Rice. Pat Rice died in a car crash in 1972, but they found a stand-in, who is actually the guy who was travelling the country in the late sixties, playing in pubs, with that other guy, who they selected as Paul McCartney’s stand-in, when &lt;em&gt;he&lt;/em&gt; (Paul McCartney, that is) took a hike and needed a replacement. Come to think of it: You’re not you, either. Anyone named &quot;Anonymous&quot; isn’t anyone. Find a mirror, make sure you exist. You’re probably in for a major surprise).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous: Also, I am <b>your</b> cousin, not-enough-times-removed, and I personally know that you are an attention-seeking pathological liar. I also know your mama has told you to stay away from these forums. Now, do what yo’ mama says!<br />
(also, remember, Pat Rice isn’t really Pat Rice. Pat Rice died in a car crash in 1972, but they found a stand-in, who is actually the guy who was travelling the country in the late sixties, playing in pubs, with that other guy, who they selected as Paul McCartney’s stand-in, when <em>he</em> (Paul McCartney, that is) took a hike and needed a replacement. Come to think of it: You’re not you, either. Anyone named &#8220;Anonymous&#8221; isn’t anyone. Find a mirror, make sure you exist. You’re probably in for a major surprise).</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich, it is difficult to know how we are going to close the gap on Barcelona, but I think we can agree that we aren&#039;t going to do it by signing superstars.

The only approach left is to sign young, develop, and resist the overtures of the bigger clubs. It seems to get tougher as the number of super-rich continues to increase, both in our league and abroad.

But I don&#039;t think we&#039;re a million miles off - we need to imitate Barca&#039;s work ethic though. Credit to the players for never giving in, but Barcelona are in a league of their own because they are a ferocity of team spirit to individual talent. That&#039;s pretty rare.

Agreed on Eduardo and Vela, and a shame in both cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich, it is difficult to know how we are going to close the gap on Barcelona, but I think we can agree that we aren&#8217;t going to do it by signing superstars.</p>
<p>The only approach left is to sign young, develop, and resist the overtures of the bigger clubs. It seems to get tougher as the number of super-rich continues to increase, both in our league and abroad.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re a million miles off &#8211; we need to imitate Barca&#8217;s work ethic though. Credit to the players for never giving in, but Barcelona are in a league of their own because they are a ferocity of team spirit to individual talent. That&#8217;s pretty rare.</p>
<p>Agreed on Eduardo and Vela, and a shame in both cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 09:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Trond Bendiksen: I can&#039;t disclose anything more. Wenger will be at Real next season....Wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Trond Bendiksen: I can&#8217;t disclose anything more. Wenger will be at Real next season&#8230;.Wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: Trond Bendiktsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trond Bendiktsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anonymous: Oh you’re Pat Rice’s cousin and know these things? Afraid your cousin has misinformed you, or my dad has misinformed your cousin.
Because I am Arsene Wengers ugly, illegimate child, and several times over the past few months – in our bi-weekly meet-ups for some garlic snails and Perrier – he has assured me he is going nowhere!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous: Oh you’re Pat Rice’s cousin and know these things? Afraid your cousin has misinformed you, or my dad has misinformed your cousin.<br />
Because I am Arsene Wengers ugly, illegimate child, and several times over the past few months – in our bi-weekly meet-ups for some garlic snails and Perrier – he has assured me he is going nowhere!</p>
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